. >> lindsey graham and john mccain are going to the white house. they're going to have a meeting with the president on immigration, but during the gaggle, the free-flowing with the pool, the back and forth between the white house press secretary and the traveling press corps, they did say sequester would likely come up in that conversation between mccain, graham, and the president. any chance that those three could strike a deal? >> i can't -- sorry. >> i will say very quickly, i don't see how even if they did how we would avert the sequester on friday, chuck. congress doesn't work like that. this seems to be at least the possible opening engagement of the talks of a deal. i mean, that's the amazing thing about sequester. >> we can't even schedule talks. >> negotiations have broken down. no, negotiations never began. having them break down would actually be a step in the right direction. >> swraent even had -- >> we have seen this movie before where what will happen in the final day or two as they come to some agreement not on any kind of a deal in